Posts: 1
Threads: 1
Joined: Dec 2014
Reputation:
0
I'm afraid I must join the ranks of the many unhappy Vuze users who are tired
of your updates installing (or attempting to install) unwanted software, and
making undesired changes to my system (browser defaults, etc.).
This is a terrible way to treat your users.
I'm out.
Vuze is uninstalled, never to return.
(worst part is, it's a great piece of software... oh well)
Posts: 1,418
Threads: 2
Joined: Jul 2014
Reputation:
67
If you join the beta program (Help menu) you get updated with the latest software without needing to run an installer.
Posts: 14
Threads: 2
Joined: Aug 2014
Reputation:
2
(12-13-2014, 12:12 PM)'oscarsmac' Wrote: I'm afraid I must join the ranks of the many unhappy Vuze users who are tired
of your updates installing (or attempting to install) unwanted software, and
making undesired changes to my system (browser defaults, etc.).
This is a terrible way to treat your users.
I'm out.
Vuze is uninstalled, never to return.
(worst part is, it's a great piece of software... oh well)
Be dissapointed all you want but keep in mind that you are getting an actively developed piece of software, good software as you mentioned, and you're getting it completely free. They did try and rely on donations for a good long while but at a certain point they had to figure out a way to suppor the cost of development. And so adding bloatware that could possibly get some hits from a brower extension or whatever isn't the worst way to go.
Granted it's a pain to make sure to uncheck all of the boxes when installing an update, but I mean seriously is that really a high price to pay? It annoys the crap out of me too but I completely understand the rationale behind the move and can't fault the developers for it.
Posts: 253
Threads: 6
Joined: Jul 2014
Reputation:
4
Magic words in instalation of Vuze: "Decline", "Skip".
Posts: 3
Threads: 0
Joined: Dec 2014
Reputation:
0
(12-17-2014, 03:02 PM)'Havokdan' Wrote: Magic words in instalation of Vuze: "Decline", "Skip".
That's cute that you think that will stop them. I delined their toolbars and other BS and they still tried to install GeniusBox. Antivirus caught it.
Posts: 3
Threads: 0
Joined: Dec 2014
Reputation:
0
(12-16-2014, 11:09 PM)'dunn.hatani' Wrote: Be dissapointed all you want but keep in mind that you are getting an actively developed piece of software, good software as you mentioned, and you're getting it completely free.
What's your point? That doesn't make it okay for them to do whatever they want to your computer without asking.
Posts: 253
Threads: 6
Joined: Jul 2014
Reputation:
4
(12-17-2014, 07:06 PM)'gmagnus' Wrote: (12-17-2014, 03:02 PM)'Havokdan' Wrote: Magic words in instalation of Vuze: "Decline", "Skip".
That's cute that you think that will stop them. I delined their toolbars and other BS and they still tried to install GeniusBox. Antivirus caught it.
I installed Vuze 5.5.0.0 ten times, and have never installed any third-party product, changed home page or browser toolbar installed without prompting. The only thing that bothers me is the fact that from time to time appears a popup for me to buy vuze plus, which I have not figured out how to turn off.A doubt, when you install vuze, in the first window you chose the "customize" before proceeding with the installation?
Posts: 18
Threads: 1
Joined: Jul 2014
I have to agree with Havokdan. I have updated Vuze dozens of times and never gotten one piece of unwanted software installed in the process (I am currently running V5.5.0.0/4). But then, I always choose "custom" or "customize" when installing any application (not just Vuze), partly for this very reason.
Posts: 14
Threads: 2
Joined: Aug 2014
Reputation:
2
(12-17-2014, 07:08 PM)'gmagnus' Wrote: (12-16-2014, 11:09 PM)'dunn.hatani' Wrote: Be dissapointed all you want but keep in mind that you are getting an actively developed piece of software, good software as you mentioned, and you're getting it completely free.
What's your point? That doesn't make it okay for them to do whatever they want to your computer without asking.
The point is that if you do select the "customize" checkbox at the first installation prompt you will then be asked to install every piece of software that they have included in the installer. Otherwise you are in fact agreeing to install the extra software if you don't check the customize checkbox. Likely that is all in the user agreement on that first prompt. Following those steps I have never had extra software installed.
It certainly is frustrating that you have to go through the prompts to deselect all of the extra software but again that is a small price to pay for such decent software.
Posts: 1
Threads: 0
Joined: Jan 2015
Reputation:
0
01-18-2015, 04:37 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-18-2015, 09:32 PM by Moon.)
Like oscarsmac, I too, will be much more wary of Vuze in the future and don't feel I can recommend it to others any longer after I found GeniusBox adware bundled with Vuze had set itself up as a proxy server intercepting not only HTTP, but HTTPS traffic as well. Since it also created a security certificate, which, appropriately, contained "DO_NOT_TRUST" in the issuer name, and installed that certificate in the root certificates list, an unsuspecting user might have no idea that the GeniusBox software was now in the position of a " man-in-the-middle" intercepting even encrypted traffic that would be otherwise protected from third-party eavesdropping, without the user's browser warning that something was now amiss with security certificates.
I almost always select the "custom" or "advanced" option when available when installing any software. This last time I installed Vuze I thought I had, as usual, declined all of the bundled software. Perhaps I got distracted during the installation and made a mistake, because the GeniusBox adware was installed with Vuze. Examining how that software functions doesn't give me any reason to believe that Vuze developers have any concern regarding the security and privacy of their users. If they did, they wouldn't include software that behaves in such a manner. I can certainly understand the need to fund development, but when developers resort to including that type of adware with their products, they should expect a resultant loss of confidence in the safety of their own software. I don't regard "free" as a good deal when installing the free software can compromise the security and performance of a system through adware/spyware. I could certainly be much more careful when installing Vuze in the future, but, obviously, the Vuze developers don't expect their average user to recognize the danger of accepting the default settings for a Vuze installation.
Posts: 3
Threads: 1
Joined: Jan 2015
Reputation:
0
Like most software these days, they are supported financially by these add on products which will be downloaded and installed if you do not say NO.
Yes it is easy to get distracted and run the default install options, that is what generates the income for the developers of VUZE. You can join the VUZE
plus scheme and pay for this excellent software, or just join the ranks of the mundane and become one more Micro Torrent users running far to many torrents and maxing out there upload speeds (and slowing down swarms). By giving up on Vuze it is you who suffers most as no other bit torrent client even comes close to the many things you can do with Vuze as an advanced user. I am sorry you feel this way, but I guess the damage is done in your mind which is really sad. I do hope you will re consider.
|
