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Leecher not showing in peer list
#1
I found the following information and checked my system.
Same problem with Vuze 5.4.0.0 on Windows 7 x64
nothing to see in vuze, but is sending to the leecher
only to see in the firewall and the network upload bandwidth
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks.

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[bt-dimeadozen-org] Leecher not showing in peer list of torrent 
Kim Saign ddemon72@swbell.net [bt-dimeadozen-org]Tobt-dimeadozen-org@yahoogroups.com Today at 9:54 AM

 I've noticed something that doesn't seem right. I have several torrents (all videos) being leeched by etree1.technutopia.com. Its been keeping my upload bandwidth maxed for days or longer. It doesn't seem to be adding to my upload credits nor does it even show that there is a leecher if I check the peer list of the torrent. When I check technutopia's account it shows its been active only 13 weeks and yet the upload and download are both in the 22 Tb range. Is that even possible in 13 weeks? I'm OK with leechers for sure but is sure seems odd this user doesn't show up in the peer list of the torrents he is leeching. Has he found a way to cheat the system?  
DD72

 

 
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#2
Sounds to me like the private torrent site in question does not use the private flag.

There are going to be a lot of if's here . . . I will try to make this as clear as possible.  I should also note that this is in theory what can happen.  In practice there might be some inaccuracies in what I am saying.

If the private flag is not set either by the torrent uploader or the torrent site
and you have DHT, peer exchange, local peer discovery etc enabled in your client
It is very possible that this user etree1.technutopia.com is simply downloading from you using one of those [DHT, peer exchange, local peer discovery, whatever] methods to connect to you.

Since Vuze is a properly coded torrent client it does not report any amount uploaded to your torrent site which was uploaded to a user who is not a member of the private site.

Again all of this is theoretical.  I have only rarely heard of this happening but this is the only way I can think this could happen.

So let us assume that I am correct.  What is the problem and what is the solution.

The problem is that the private torrent site is not properly coded.  It is ridiculous to have a private site which does not automatically set the private flag . . . there are still many sites who make this mistake . . . but that is a different discussion.  The solution is for you to manually disable DHT, peer exchange, etc. globally.  Unfortunately, this means that any public torrents you want to seed or leech will no longer function properly.

The point here is that the private flag disables all of that stuff for a particular torrent so that you do not have to globally disable those functions.  That is the right way to do it.

 
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#3
Actually no torrent clients know enough about tracker membership to know which set of peers is authorised for them (I did some work on this once but nobody out there was interested enough to complete it).

So Vuze will report all data uploaded downloaded on a torrent to the tracker (apart from LAN-local transfers - this is configurable under Tools->Options->Tracker->Client
 
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#4
I have a feeling GaryE doesn't understand much about the technicalities of the BT protocol nor about the inner workings of Vuze. We appreciate good feedback and on this note I'd suggest he should stop spamming people's posts with his innacurate assumptions and long but misleading answers. Trying to sound like a smartass when you're not only worsens your case and the people expecting genuine support are only left with a bitter impression and no solution.
 
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(09-23-2014, 01:13 PM)'parg' Wrote: Actually no torrent clients know enough about tracker membership to know which set of peers is authorised for them (I did some work on this once but nobody out there was interested enough to complete it).

So Vuze will report all data uploaded downloaded on a torrent to the tracker (apart from LAN-local transfers - this is configurable under Tools->Options->Tracker->Client
 
 

@ PargMany thanks for your fast answer.
 

 
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